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Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Websites to Avoid - Websleuths



Also avoid Justicequest. - http://edam241.blogspot.com/2011/12/websites-to-avoid-justicequest.html

Now on to Websleuths...

Start clicking on those Alert buttons, ass kissers!
I was going to demand that my name be removed from that sickening site, but I found a better way. Not only will I be banned permanently for posting this, but I’m sure that this site will now be one of those, that Websleuths blocks, in a blatant example of censorship. They don’t want you to read differing opinions, heaven forbid that you may find out the truth about them. They have publically stated that you will be banned FOR JOINING ANOTHER FORUM!!!

Then there is THIS nonsense:
JBean
If you put in a URL to link to another site and that URL comes out blocked or asterisks in place of the URL, that means the site is not allowed to be linked here.
Don't ask people to circumvent that block through any means like typing in new words or linking to a site that links the blocked site.
Just don
't link the website at all.
I understand that some of you don't know which sites are ok and which sites are not ok. Sometimes they change. But if it is visibly blocked by way of asterisks in the web address when you post it, there is 100% certainty that it is not allowed here.

Linking to one of these blocked websites is an immediate ban.

So how does one know if they link to a blocked website? By the following annoying method:

Tom'sGirl
A suggestion is to Preview Post before hitting Submit Reply, IF it comes up with ***** you know you've posted a "No-No" link

Now, I don’t know about you, but I rarely ever preview my posts. Why should I? Now get a load of this bullshit:

adnoid
I'll help out here.
 

There are a couple of sites, the owners of which have sent threatening messages to Tricia saying they will do certain things if their sites are linked to from WS. Some (not all) of these people have criminal records, so Tricia takes these threats seriously. To prevent this from happening, we have set the board up so that if you type the name of the site or try to post a link to it, the name or link will be replaced with the "*" character.
 

When you preview your post (which I'm sure all of you do first, right?) and you see this happen, THAT should be your clue that you cannot link to that site. Some people have tried to get around this (for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble) by breaking the name/link into 2 parts or using tinyurl or similar services.

R-i-i-i-ght! People with criminal records, who are publically known, will do “certain things” if their website is linked from Websleuths. What a bunch of malarkey! First a police state mentality over there, and now conspiracy theorists!

I’ve been a member of Websleuths since the Laci Peterson case. Things have changed quite a bit since then and the worst part is the censorship and “favored” posters, who you shouldn’t dare say anything about or risk being “timed out.” As one poster put it: “Coming onto WS and bashing Friday is like showing up at a football game and rooting for the other team... not wise.”

Indeed. Friday posted this totally false and misleading information: “Tim Miller wanted to reassure all of you that George has been found in a motel room but was able to be resuscitated.” and “Tim is in Houston, but called me earlier tonight heartbroken, planning to leave for Florida to help search for George. He asks all of you for prayers for George. I have no idea yet if George is still in danger of dying.”

And why? Because she has a compulsion to post anything to get a rise, and the truth be damned. George was in NO danger of dying, not EVER. In fact all he had with him was his blood pressure medication.

So what happened to Friday for lying? A time out? Banned? Nope. But four people who dared to call her on it were given time outs, some for the slightest reason.

Here’s an interesting comment:

chicoliving
Moderator
Location: Chico, CA
Thank you to those that alerted to the questionable posts. To those of you that decided to quote the questionable posts, your posts were deleted. If you read a questionable post then alert to it. DO NOT quote the post and take it to the next level. NO further warnings.

Gee, how nice. A summary deletion of posts. Hide the facts, folks! Typical Websleuths behavior.

How about this from the TOS?:

Inviting outside Contact:
“Inviting” is termed as a post where you invite other members to contact you to find out more information, rather than post it in the forum. This is not allowed and any posts with emails or invitations to contact for more information will either be edited or deleted entirely. This includes use of the Private Message system via comments such as “Check your PMs” or “PM me” posted in discussion threads.


What the hell are these people so afraid of? You’re not allowed to join other websites OR invite other members to contact you for more information? Do they have to know EVERYTHING? Talk about a police state mentality!

But don’t just take it from me, here are some quotes from others:

Websleuths attacks and mutilates victims or associates (attorneys, etc) of crimes while they leave actual “justice” in the dust. They’re so far from being about “justice” it’s pathetic, as true justice doesn’t involve lies created by message board posters who insert themselves in a high profile case where they have no business. Their “justice” rant is a guise, and I think that was East’s point, given what the Websleuths board has now turned into which makes The Enquirer look newsworthy by comparison.

another:

I just can’t stand it that the WS members are blindly following and believing what TG is posting. WHY are people not allowed to question or tell their side of the story. WS just deletes the post and no one questions what the original author said.

another:

I was a long-time member of WS. I had never been in any trouble with the website prior to receiving my "YOU ARE BANNED! YOU KNOW WHY!" notice when I tried to log into the site last Sunday, 7/20/08. I then read the website owner's 'Taking out the trash' letter. It was filled with outrageous accusations and lies.
Bottom line: The reason that I was banned was, like XXXXXXX stated, I had the audacity to join another forum. That's it...No conspiracy...no plots...nothing more sinister than that. Others were banned who dared question why the initial group was banned. All members were instructed not to ask questions and not to go to the other forum else they too would be banned. To date, there are well over 100 WS members who have joined us at the other forum. Many were banned because they joined. Others were left in good standing at WS. There is no rhyme or reason as to who gets the boot and who doesn't. WS has chosen to hide all those members who were banned in this incident. So, you won't find us on the main page. You will however see a "banned" or "inactive" status under our hats.


another:

I am a long time poster at WS who has now been banned. I was not given a warning whatsoever! They are beggars and liars over at that site. WS did want everyone to join Light The Way Home! They begged us to over and over again. Also we were continually begged to purchase the background/criminal checks over there.There is no such thing as free speech at WS. Patty has made a mockery of even being able to post. She is nothing short of a Gestapo over there as stupid as she is. These days, if you are a member of WS, there can be no free speech, no laughs, and certainly no camaraderie between posters.
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So, all of you morons and suck-ups and HENS that enjoy kissing ass over there, by all means enjoy yourselves. Just keep on posting your innuendoes, rumors, and lies, with little regard for actual facts. And don’t forget to bash the families and friends of victims, and the attorneys, and anyone else who shows the slightest bit of sympathy for them, like you have done with the Anthonys. I’m off to other places where the truth ISN’T a crime that needs to be hidden.

89 comments:

  1. I see they are still at it. Not surprising. Anyone they deem to be an enemy, must be a criminal, don't you know? That means us. They'd best watch it though, enough of us know our rights, and are not afraid to press charges or sue. I wonder what the true count of those who have been libeled and slandered by that place is?

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  2. The only problem I see with that though, were the comments on a public or private forum? If private or members only, it might be a tough thing to get a lawsuit to stick.

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  3. Slandering a person in another's living room is still slander, and other ears heard it. Know what I mean?

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  4. Yes, but slander is usually verbal. Libel is written.

    Either way, I think that it would be a difficult case to win, not to mention very expensive.

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  5. Don't let them make you feel that you can't express your opinion. Look at Perezhilton for example. He posts nasty things about celebs all the time. But guess what...They can't do a damn thing about it. #1 Because it is his opinion and he has freedom of speech. #2 What you are saying aren't lies. And many fellow posters at JQ have screen shots of all the bs, and slander that T.G. was spewing from her mouth. Just another example of this bs is the following. Our dear Floh had a ton of posts. When everyone else was banned they were deleted as well as all their posts. But those with high post numbers became "inactive" so their posts would remain on the site. So if they were not worthy to be part of the site any more and many of them asked for their posts to be removed. Yet they remain because they contributed to much to certain threads or whatnot. Tricia needs to get a damn life, and stop trying to control everyone elses. I truely hope that not a damn person buys the shit she is trying to force down everyones throats. And just so their is no question about it. I was b_fly27 over at WS and currently at JQ. I was banned for copying info over from one site to the other. I did it purposely so we would have proof that WS mods/owner were still using "banned or inactive" users accounts to bait others. It is in the open forum where even visitors can see. They can never delete those posts I made at JQ which proves they are doing what they claim they are not.

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  6. I glad I no longer post at WS. I miss a few friends, but not the moderator politics.

    windovervocalcords

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  7. Do you know what happened to Pirate who is a poster involved in the Haleigh Cummings case? Moderator Top Gunner was going to her private messages and sending them to other people.

    Top Gunner was also going into private social groups in the forum and copying and pasting posts and sending them to other people.

    At Websleuths they decide which side of a case they are on. If people think differently they go on a campaign to smear them.

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  8. I'm surprised that a lot more people are unaware of that behavior. Little by little the truth will come out to enough people so that the forum will have to be taken down.

    I, and many others, await that day.

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  9. I'm a WS newbie and am frustrated. My links to a well known, respected local newspaper publisher are deleted by WS moderators. I feel they are deleting the links because his views and insider knowledge doesn't match with their own misguided ideas. The publisher I have been quoting is 3 steps ahead of all other media sources, but Ws won't allow until national media makes a statement which is always a week behind. WS doesn't understand that local papers have more indepth contacts with local LE.

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  10. There are other sites that are much less heavy-handed than the freaks at Websleuths. If you don't wish to continue being frustrated, leave them and join one of the others.

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  11. Anonymous said...
    Do you know what happened to Pirate who is a poster involved in the Haleigh Cummings case? Moderator Top Gunner was going to her private messages and sending them to other people.

    Top Gunner was also going into private social groups in the forum and copying and pasting posts and sending them to other people.

    At Websleuths they decide which side of a case they are on. If people think differently they go on a campaign to smear them
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    To answer this IDIOT poster above. (no offense to your blog, Edam)
    GET A LIFE PIRATE!!! How sad are you to have to run around the internet trashing people for your own lies? Give it a rest. I never knew that any one person could be as self absorbed and selfish as you are. You used poor HaLeigh's case to make yourself feel more important, when everyone knows just how pathetic and inferior you really are. What a shame. You will convict Ronald no matter what it takes and that is just wrong.

    Also, if I may comment on the August 3rd poster's comment about not being able to link somewhere. You must be talking about Art Harris right? Take Edam's advice and leave. It won't change with the moderation the way it is "upstairs".

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  12. OH PIRATE GIRL, pot, meet kettle. You chose to PM everyone of your friends on WS and grow your GARDEN. You tried so hard to be Tricia, but have now sunk to nothingness. The Garden remains the gossip capital of the world, maliciously sniping and insulting other good hearted individuals on all other boards. And now they've seen it. You were BUSTED with your lies and venom, gave grandmothers of missing children your email account info so they could spy, and you continue to snarl.

    Oh Pirate Girl! You have no game that anyone would even care to compete in. You are on your last leg of legimitacy, now that everyone you deal with in life has seen the childlike nature of your "baby", the Garden Forum.

    Oh Pirate Girl! You have been the most insidious aspect of discussion boards in the Haleigh Cummings case, spinning your web of deceit to the unwary. You've attempted to go mainstream by contacting media types with your "insider information", only to be smacked down by them when they caught on to your lack of real or correct info. They would probably be more inclined to return BlStarke's emails than yours, at this point.

    Oh Pirate Girl! You are not competent enough to play in the big leagues, though you tried ever so hard. Now, you've been forced to retreat back to your computer, your little bloggers in your Garden, to JFH, and to putting out satirical Twitters for RonettesInc. Even your attempt at a semi-news website, JFH, now has a BNN-esque reputation, which all have dismissed as "biased junk". The hits at JFH are from the same 100+ bloggers that refer back to it again and again during the day and night for a quote or link.

    Oh Pirate Girl! Again, you failed to make anything of yourself except a professional blogger in ill repute.

    Oh Pirate Girl! You have again shown your absolute insignificance, but now you are so even to the blogger world.
    You now on about the same level of our legitimacy gauge as the Ksue's of the world. You are a wart to the blogger world, Pirate. You have tried so hard, day after day, to become someone of significance, but you don't realize that you've got to get off your computer to do that in real life?

    Look around you, PIRATE GIRL. Everyone else is out and about, working, paving career paths, gaining reputations in their occupations from hard work, and integrity.

    Where are you now, PIRATE GIRL? Let me guess, writing another Twitter joke. Congratulations. You've hit the big time!

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  13. Tricia Griffith owner of Websleuths is a complete scumbag. Here is the letter she wrote me when she banned me for asking a question about her sexually perverted criminal mod she supported: ALL SPELLING ERRORS ARE HERS.

    Dear Lisa,

    Everyone at Websleuths knows you are posting on JQ. I can only reley on what others tell me about the people who want to post on forums other than Websleuths anbd I do have people who watch and report back to me. I have some hard and fast rules and TOS about this. You are not going to use my forum for free and then take my information to your little asshole friends.

    Now about your compliant about Windchime. I suggest you ask a poster named Amraan who is now an administrator at this forum you use as you now already. You and your little friends are in for a good wake up call when I am done.

    http://www.justicequest.net/forums/

    Amraan kept telling me to let this person be a moderator. I finally relented based on her positive recommendation and let this person become a moderator at Websleuths. Had it not been for Amraan I would not have let Windchime volunteer. Amraan needs to tell you why she so highly recommended this person to me. I had no reason at the time to doubt her word. Later I fond out about Winchime record but it was old news anyway so I was not too concerned.

    Within an hour of finding out about this person's arrest record she was removed banned and I told everyone on Websleuths about this situation.

    You tell me you sniveling sob sister . . . What else could I have done to make you little punks happy? I'm all ears. I own WS and I makde the rules. You don't pay my bills. I am in debt to keep WS going.
    I can assure you this can happen to anyone who has to rely on the help of others to run a forum.

    Your attempt to smear me is what is sickening and I am going to get my lawyer on you. Then we'll find out all about your past and see how you like that. I know who you are. I know your real name and I will be watching your activities. You are clue-less as to what we do at Websleuths.

    The only reason this shit is "all over the net" is because of people like you who can't get over the fact that you were banned for violating our TOS.

    Websleuths helps so many people, families and others who are victims of crime or have missing loved ones. The positive at Websleuths so much outweighs any negative but you are too mean, stupid and likely into sex with your brothers to see this.

    I am struggling every day to try and keep the forum open to help those who need it. I won't be dragged down by dirty filthy pussy's like you. I bet you smell. I bet your kids have fleas.

    Tell your buddy Shannon and Princess I said hello.

    I am thousands of dollars in debt trying to keep Websleuths running. I am very hily respected and you might know I have been interviewed extensivly. What have you done? Besides spent a lot of time on your kneess.

    With over 15 thousand members and over 1 million posts we are stronger than ever. Despite efforts of uniformed and rude, filthy people like you.

    Do not ever contact me again. I an going to sue you. I will file a complaint of harassment with your ISP and get you kicked off the itnernet for ever. You are banned. Don't you dare come back to my forum or you will find yourself with LE at your door as I have many connections there who will act on my say.

    Tricia Griffith
    Owner/Websleuths.com
    6300 N Sage Wood Drive
    Suite H # 214
    Park City UT 84098

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  14. It's Tricia's forum and I'm sorry I ever sold it to her. I'm saddened for all of the people she has hurt- especially the victims and their family members.

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  15. You've been exposed as the trash you truly are, Tricia. Give it up. You can't fight the world with your imaginary "lawyer".

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  16. WOW! I am absolutely shocked over that letter and I hope Ms. Banks sued the hell out of her for those threats (I would have at least got a restraining order).

    Thank God there was a mishap when I tried to join, although I found out the truth later: I am a PAID AOL member and that was the reason for my denial. I wrote back questioning the decision as I had been a member many years ago but had forgotten my password. I actually got a reply back basically saying "ok, you can join".

    Something didn't sound right to me so I went searching and found out that they don't like AOL members to be WS members because they CAN'T TRACK YOUR IP ADDRESS. I never clicked on the acceptance link. I'm worried that my personal info is in the hands of a bitch who can write a letter to Ms. Banks like that.

    I think the above letter should be printed off and send to law enforcement agencies and victim's advocates around the US.

    I cannot believe the nasty, foul-mouth PIG would be so nasty to those concerned because after all, THE PERVERT HAD ACCESS TO EVERY MEMBERS PERSONAL INFORMATION THAT IS REQUIRED TO JOIN.

    Continue to spread the word to save others from being a victim of hers.

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  17. **APPLAUSE**
    JBean must have BIG issues to be such a pain-in-the-ass moderator. I quit going there solely because of her. Well, Patty G too. As cliquey as high school, and a hen house to boot. On the plus side, it did make me remember how to USENET again. Thanks for posting, I was glad I found it.

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  18. Every person of consequence on that site has issues. NONE of them can be trusted. It's time that site is removed from the current owner. She will never give it up though.

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  19. More for your reading pleasure:

    http://duplicityatws.wordpress.com/

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  20. This is why old bored housewives shouldn't be moderators on the internet. They can no longer control their husband's desires to diddle around with younger more attractive women so they take their aggression out on their own personal "world" of Websleuths. I bet they're all fat and have a distinct odor about them. Men should run that forum! And I'm a woman lol. But women are too hen-pecky and too jealous and way too controlling!

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  21. Wow. This whole discussion was like a visit to a madhouse. Only, a madhouse full of people getting worked up over the internet. So, more of a "sadhouse."

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  22. Wrong, clueless person. They are not worked up over the "Internet." They are concerned over what used to be an excellent website that's been turned into trash by it's "Owner," reads people's private messages, has untrustworthy moderators, including a sexual deviant, on a site that supposedly is supposed to do just the opposite and bans people indiscriminately for things as simple as posting on another website.

    Or didn't your tiny brain absorb that after reading "the whole discussion?" What's really sad are people like you who just don't get it.

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  23. I just tried joining that site to set some facts straight about a co-worker who is missing but it blindly banned all my e-mail address's (i tried my work,home and my husbands). It gave no reason and when I click to contact the site manager it tries to open up outlook which I don't have set up.
    The people on that site are talking like my co-worker ran off for no good reason,talking that her my space page set herself up for abduction and questioned her running errands on pay day (which happens to be a friday).
    I'm still upset I can't defend her but I'm glad to see me not being able to get into the web site is not out of charecter for them.

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  24. Wow! This is so surreal. I went to WS and attempted to post today. I haven't been in there since May of 2005, only to find out that I have been "banned for life." I sent an email to the administrator to find out why, but after reading this information, I wouldn't go back there if I was being paid to! Somebody shut it down!!!

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  25. I have been lurking at WS for a few weeks and they all seem like a bunch of unemployed losers or housewives with too much time on their hands. I have repeatedly come across blatent lies and some pretty deplorable accusations. I also realllllly enjoy how they are so sure their opinions are facts. Some of the theories on cases I have read from posters make me laugh, a lot. They over analyze incorrect information or unconfirmed rumors and it all snow balls from there. I haven't and won't try to join the site because if I was actually accepted in the first place I have a feeling I'd be banned pretty quick. There's quite a few people on there that need reminding of their place in society.

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  26. Holy crap, I'm glad I found out about this! I just joined that site, and noticed all the banned posters, so I did a little research, which brought me here. It's a shame, a site like that could be really beneficial, but crazy people have to screw everything up.

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  27. Websleuths needs to be shut down!!!

    They allow the links they want even if they go against their own TOS to be posted.

    They are on a witch hunt against a POI in a missing persons case and had the nerve to let someone post a link to a defamatory blog.

    When I complained they informed me it was a "valid" site.

    I was banned for pointing out that their "facts" were NOT. And their posts were defamatory. They encourage stalking amongst their members who post the FB profiles of POI and anyone they THINK maybe connected.

    When I complained I was told not to worry that the poster shocked and appalled had been ban.

    What GREAT "websleuths" I AM that poster.

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  28. Interesting that I think the Anonymous above is someone on a specific WS case forum I'm following. It is a missing persons case where there are no official persons of interest as of yet, but there is one specific person who several people feel has been acting suspiciously. A real life friend (I believe sister-in-law) of that "suspicious" person has been trolling the forum from the beginning, slamming everyone they don't like and calling people names. It's very disruptive.

    The mods had a pretty good handle on it until a big name, long-time user who gets away with anything because she's friends with some mods showed up on the same case. This big name member of WS got upset because she felt people should be deferring to her on every issue. When people didn't, she started deliberately baiting people into fights, making personal slams, etc. Now the big name member has allied herself with the troll -- and the entire forum is just dying because of it.

    It's just kind of interesting that someone who is causing problems and actually being dealt with appropriately for once is complaining that Websleuths sucks. WS sucks when they let their friends run wild, NOT when they actually deal with a disruptive troll properly.

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  29. OMG - WS member since Laci & Connor Peterson case. Not a big poster but do read a lot there. With so many great posters banned & so many newbies with NO IDEA of how it is done, it's getting bad! Name calling, bickering, back & forth & forth & back. How can a MOD of specific thread not even know the basic FACTS the MSM publishes about the case? And how can this MOD call out the poster who corrected her for spewing misinformation? Probably banned her, eh?

    WS used to be super great! Now it's a bunch of rumors & trolls (at least 4 X thick). . . Thanks for exposing light to the drama that has gone on "behind the scenes".

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  30. I found this site when I googles "websleuths is ridiculous". It's been comforting to know I'm not the only one. I am a newbie and for that I got into a lot of trouble. I thought we were supposed to debate with facts. . . Apparently, you have to pick the right side. They don't even "welcome" if they realize you have a differing view. But when a 1st time poster agrees with them it's sparkles and emoticons and fireworks welcome! So highschool. Thank you for helping me not to feel like such a loser

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  31. Thank you Edam. I found it to be cliquey at best initially. But I never expected to be attacked and humiliated for just having a different perspective by some of the poster and especially the moderator! Of all people! I've checked out your link and I like it. It seems many people have eerily had the same experience. After I recuperate a little from this, I hope to join it soon. I really am a nice person, and I'm actually embarrassed that this hurt me so much. Thanks again!

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  32. A lot websites that are big have a lot of banned people, and run a strict member posting policy. Try TWOP once and see what I mean. All websites have cliques especially if members have been around for years posting with one another.

    Ya'll are the ones that need to get a life. Who cares about this one website. Go discuss cases somewhere else if you don't like WS.

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  33. Apparently you are clueless as to what the gripe about Websleuths is, and frankly, if you have no idea after reading this thread, then you are an idiot.

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  34. New Website to Avoid!

    edam241.blogspot.com/2011/12/websites-to-avoid-justicequest.html

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  35. I cant believe how bad the jerks are on WS. They are more concerned with promoting WS than solving cases! MODSNIP MY ()*&^&^%(&**_)

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  36. That site is a place designed for control-freaks and masochists, imo

    Mentally-healthy individuals quite naturally take umbrage at being repeatedly abused by faceless 'mods' (who, as someone has said above, appear to be weird, aggressive creatures who hate the world and their own lives in particular)

    WS in my opinion, is an outmoded, 20th century anachronism: the moderated forum. Online fora have moved beyond archaic, authoritarian forum models, but WS won't give it up because if they did, they'd have no life and nowhere to vent their personal rage and lust to control - no way of making strangers miserable

    I see WS moderators and admin to be similar to those who deliberately shine their headlights into other motorists' eyes. I see them as having the same vicious mentality as those who tail-gate other motorists

    It's good they're all clustered in the one pen (known as WS). Better than allowing them to roam freely. Otherwise, where else could they spend their time - as guards in prisons or as care-workers? Now that's a ghastly, frightening thought

    Long may they fester there in their bitter little world known as Websleuths. Guess becoming an outdated 'mod' allows them to claim they 'work from home' or 'in administrative capacity', lol

    To me, Websleuths admin and laughable 'mods' are posturing bullies in constant need of a fix. Maybe it's a hormone imbalance? Or, is it because they have more than a passing interest in revolting crimes, in the same way arsonists often sneak their way into employment as firemen?

    The mentally-healthy get out of WS after a very short stay

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  37. Very well said.

    (On another note, as much as they will deny it, Justicequest is a similar site more like Websleuths than they care to admit.)

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  38. I agree with the ones here who have posted to stay away from WS. I can't believe how some of those WS users kowtow to the mods, lavishing undeserved praise upon them, after a mod scolds and snips another user for what they consider an infraction!
    That site is ruled with gestapo like tactics. Why would anyone would want to register and join that controlling and rigid site!?

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  39. Hi Edam,
    I have been participating in an Amazon Discussion forum which was originally set up to Boycott the Casey Anthony book written by Jose Baez.

    I don't care about the boycott, I think CA is guilty but I noticed after months and months that the remarks were vicious and coming from WEBSLEUTHS members.

    I started doing research on WEBSLEUTHS, and my search led me here.

    I started a thread in the forum called 'THE TRUTH ABOUT WEBSLEUTHS, THE OWNER AND IT'S BLOGGERS"

    My user name is J. on that thread and the websleuths minions are doing all they can to cover up my postings and hide the truth. They also do all they can to change the subject.

    I am attaching the link. Please read the link and all posts from me. It's lengthy so I would suggest reading the first few pages and the last several pages. They are denying that Tricia ever wrote the letter to Lisa Banks and saying that your blog is not proof, etc.

    Please read the link I am attaching.

    Best,
    Jamie

    http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Websleuths-owner-bloggers-/forum/FxC2118KCLGTN1/Tx3NLX33TWC6KHH/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1937856380

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  40. PS to EDAN,
    Feel free to participate on the thread I attached and defend your blog and defend the truth about Tricia.

    I suggested to her many, many minions that they simply ASK Tricia if she wrote the letter, but they refuse.

    Then I asked Tricia herself to post that the letter wasn't true, but again she is a no show.

    The minions are cackling like old hens accusing me of being someone called SJ (no idea who that is) and also accusing me of being Jose Baez, which I am not.

    They all simply divert from the topic, which is the TRUTH ABOUT WEBSLEUTHS, ETC.

    I think Tricia is a dangerous thug who likes to wield a false sense of power and she causes much more harm then good.

    XO

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  41. PPS
    I'm sorry I spelled your name wrong above.

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  42. There is nothing wrong with Websleuths except for those who are incapable or unwilling to follow a few simple rules. Adequate social skills help as well. The fact is, there are more intelligent and conscientious posters there than any other forum I have come across, and I have been posting there for several years. I accidentally came across this blog and am disturbed to see so much anger and bitterness. The fact is, no forum is going to be perfect. And there will always be those who can't stand it if they don't have everything their own way. There will always be those who just don't play well with others, and resort to angry bitterness and these childlike tantrums that are displayed here on this blog. Ok, I've had my say and will now be on my way.

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  43. See ya! You see, the difference is that post would have got you banned on Websleuths.

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  44. Websleuths is a great place. I been reading and posting there for years and never had a problem with mods at all and don't take rules or the way a person or mod posts personally. Many other forums are filthly talking, make fun of people, Etc. Websleuths is never like that.

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    1. Boy is that a load of baloney. The Jodi Arias/Travis Alexander threads have been full of vile, vulgar, explicit joking about the deceased and his body parts on a daily basis. In addition to that, anyone on the defense side has been bashed and bullied in regard to appearance and intelligence. Family members of both the deceased and the defendant have been raked over the coals. The posters at Websleuths have been absolutely ruthless.

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  45. Websleuths is garbage. Tricia Griffith is human garbage. Rumor has it she's getting in trouble for impersonating Marcie Wogan, a former attorney from Maryland. She is a psycho and she has no job, but that website so she trolls a lot and impersonates people. Her newest thing is attacking people who say that Morgan Ingram was murdered and banning them when they question anything. I am done with that website.

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  46. Tricia Griffith is a fat slob. Try using the bathroom after that fat lard cunt. She bans anyone and craps her diaper every time she doesn't agree with anything. She creates fake accounts to bully and harass people. She's a big pig.

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  47. I feel vindicated for not wanting to post there anymore. I started having bad feelings about the site a couple of years ago and stopped posting. It's so blatantly clique-ish, and it's obvious that if you don't toe THEIR line, your opinions don't matter. Utterly biased and with its own agenda.

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  48. It's exactly the same at JusticeQuest.

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  49. Who are these people anyway? I'll tell you: Over-zealous, law and order freaks afraid of their own shadows. Do these people think they are going to solve crimes by searching Internet news articles? What a joke. Sites like WS, Scared Monkeys, and Blinkoncrime are for pathetic individuals who have nothing better to do than play "detective".

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    1. Couldn't have said it better. For the most part they are older women with nothing better to do with themselves.

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  50. Exactly. Websleuths should change their name to 'WWW.Bored-old-hens-repeating-the-news.com.
    Actively throwing up a decent opinion about a case that doesn't echo the latest news report will get you a modsnip, warning, or banned! Wtf is the point of a forum if discussion and theories relevant to that case are banned?
    And god forbid you innocently post something along the lines of 'Anyways feel free to pm me about x'
    NAZIS *Cough, oops, mods* will be on you like white on rice.
    There's a particularly bad one for it in the Australian forums - 'Marlywings' being her username.
    I really hope that she googles her username one day and sees this, I really do.
    She needs to get a job I think.

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    1. Some things never change. JusticeQuest is just as bad.

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    2. My experience as well. I think the mods are running the place like Nurse Ratchett at an insane asylum. If you suggest anything controversial that gets the "inmates" worked up you get your post deleted. The whole site is run as a Koffee Klatch. God forbid you render an opinion that runs contrary to MSM or the opinion at large, I got stalked by a "nutter" on line and they claimed I was "baiting" him. This idiot took a general comment that I made that "arguably" something could be this or that, and then started sending five paragraphs of questions that were inaccurate and followed me around for a day and a half insisting I was holding out answering him. Good bye, never going back to that nut house,

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    3. The mods delete and snip stuff willy nilly. All you have to do is upset one of the crazy folks and they will report your post and stuff gets deleted. If you ask the moderator what happened you are told your post is upsetting somebody. What? This is about crime and death! Posts disappear, folks get put on time out or disappear altogether, It is like in North Korea gulag where folks disappear and history books are rewritten, And the rules constantly changing. Some very unstable folks over there. Bad water perhaps.

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    4. I believe Websleuths and Justice Quest are run by same folks or share moderators. How I know this. I am banned by both, but never posted on JQ, only registered. So beware....

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    5. Things never change over there. My original post was 5 1/2 years ago and it's still the same crap.

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  51. Hi!

    Two months ago I had the same experience many of you had with fat Trish the gutter snipe owner of "Websleuths". I started looking into their immaturity issues of the mods and endless bans for DARING to oppose that gelatinous fat blob and then began to ask a few LE associates of mine and they confirmed my suspicions: Websleuths has never directly contributed a dot of shit towards bringing one case to closure and is considered full of pedophiles and weirdos. 3 separate federal officials whom I trust implicitly stated that I shouldn't visit the site or involve myself there the entire site is carefully logged by LE with a warrant. One was also adamant that private messages and member's personal infos were NOT private and in fact get distributed to the lowlife-with-no-life that sit there and attack anyone.

    Websleuths has a name for being a place where people take zero facts, and then develop asinine conclusions and suspicions and then they run with it.

    Also, I notice that Fat Pat has a habit [seen above] of sock-puppetry but she always gives herself away with a few common grammatical errors and the almost invariable "you need to get a life" statement. Examples of just this can be found anywhere online where the gelatinous fat sow's Websleuths site is disparaged.

    I just checked back a day or two ago and found that a new poster who was suggesting now, fresh ideas based upon science and records-keeping had their posts deleted in the usual heavy-heavy-fat-cow handed way that Tricia has made a name for herself for doing.

    I was told in no uncertain terms by the police I discreetly talk to regarding a particular case that further participation on that Websleuths scumbag site could result in my being locked out from further insider info. This is something I cannot afford, and the way they treat people there made it easy to accept and understand.

    My client also looked up their reputation and forbid contact with such a nasty feces hole of a site.

    Thank you.

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    1. Thank you for your post.

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    2. Thank you for the venue and opportunity to state my experiences with them! It's nice for me to know I'm not alone in this.

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  52. I just thought of something someone suggested to me. Anyone who is wronged by this crew should simply write to her advertisers and add some links to the posts online that describe the tactics there. Make sure you warn them about Fat Pat's vindictiveness so they know to cite benign reasons. Otherwise as everyone has seen she will send her mentally-challenged welfare "crew" after them. Worse, Patricia will shoot her fat cunt off at them too to defend her cretinous ways.
    If Websleuths has wronged you this is critical. Even a 2x a month stream of complaints asking "why would you support such lowlife children?" will take its toll and she's already broke.

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  54. Edam...Wow! I'm so happy to see someone with balls finally stand up to the 'owner' of WS and her minions of stupidity. I used to chime in on some of the C.Anthony issues of the day, but the moment I gathered conscience and accurate information pertaining to this debacle of the computer searches, they did not want to hear about it. Their IT people know absolutely nothing except how to bait. A person using a computer or especially Facebook can log on miles away from their actual place of the computer, but try and tell that to them who know nothing - They also did not want to hear about how the so called Ohio pics of C.A. surfaced...With a bit of investigation it was not hard at all to pin point exactly who the culprit was who sold the pics to TMZ- it was a media corp., who was thisclose to that family. I still cannot believe they still try and come up with their type of Karma for that case. It has been over for 3 years, but the rollerball continues. They will never accept the fact that their words will NEVER be heard to try and get that case under the gun again or any others for that matter. If this WB was so great, how come they don't have a Reality Show of their own?
    Bunch of nothing to do with their lives people who think they are contributing - yes, they are .... a bunch of hot air and wasted time

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  55. For the love of Ivy and Simon Barrett! I thought they finally went out of business. Websleuths is a huge mothball driven klatch of women who have absolutely nothing else to do than be in someone else's business. I cannot believe for the life of anything sacred that they are STILL talking about people like Casey Anthony(Get over it, she didn't do what she was accused of doing-blatant attempt of something else entirely-kid has been living with her real father in Boston)They are now on to Jodi Arias with relish-Why? Why do they even try? It must be tough to be there 24/7 and keep on blasting their pie holes on their opinions that mean absolutely nothing. And these threats, oh yes, they seem to think they can cajole and intimidate, but when faced with cold hard facts, they turn it against a person. Boy, if they really knew what exactly happened in the C. Anthony situation, everyone would be beyond disbelief. Instead of finding the real facts, they all went on the assumption of the lie presented from day one. What a bunch of maroons!

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  56. I was active on the Dermond case on WS the middle of this year. A case that is hopelessly stalled. I suggested a scenario of accidental death which checked all the boxes for the circumstances of Russels decapitation and Shirleys drowning. I was immediately pounced by a bully on the site whining about my theory. So what happens is i get censored for agitating (the inmates). No kidding. Somebody whines and you get censored. Nothing i stated violated any TOS. So after that, i go to the MH-370 thread and state that something "arguably" could have occurred a certain way during the crash. Now some nut head challenges me to cite facts for my opinion. The moderator reacts same way citing TOS, and i should have said opinion instead of opinion. So i add to my signature line that these are my opinions and the use of words like arguably are not an invitation to engage in endless debates. Now i am censored again, reaso agitating the inmates. I finally said "i am outta here" knowing that is number one TOS violation because you cannot give the inmates any idea that they too can escape the asylum. So i gladly accepted my walking papers from nurse ratchett.

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  57. Bessie-----------a Nazi style moderator. Once she sinks her teeth in you............it's just time out from there on. C__nt

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  58. I am blown away by the energy that goes into hating WS. Why does anyone care? If you don't like it go post somewhere else or open your own forum and run it the way you want. People have been bitching and moaning about WS for years and years and it hasn't changed a thing, they keep growing like a weed and thats because it's a great forum, despite some of the bs.That's unavoidable when you have such an enormous volume of anonymous people all sharing their ideas. I was a moderator at WS once upon a time. I left because RL took over. So many things have been said that are untrue it's rediculous. Mods can't read PM's. Absolutely cannot read them. The software (when I was there at least) did not support any such feature, not even for the admins that did the technical stuff. What happened alot was other posters would fwd PM's they got to the mods so a ton of "undergroud" plots to cause trouble would be nixed before they started. TG was hardly involved. Usually if she's repramanding someone it's because people ran to her tattling, TG would take them at face value and go on the attack. It looked like she knew what was going on but she really never had any idea. Do I like her? I'm not crazy about her but I don't hate her. I think she has some very serious issues that are nothing to laugh at and have hurt alot of people. Like a gambling addiction. That's just my opinion, I don't know that for a fact. The mods work hard and long hours and for free. It's not uncommon to get 5 - 20+ PM's in an hour, everyone whining because no one can get along. You try your best to be fair, sometimes you fail. It's tough babysitting a few hundred adults. All the rules are in place for a reason. And somethings usually happened to make it in place. No one was ever banned for joining another forum. Again, what would happen is their private PM's or similar would be sent to mods or Tricia and if they were threatning to "take down" WS or that sort of thing, then yes, they'd be banned. Why would anyone want that? I would do time outs but that's because someone would be asked over and over agian, usually in a PM to knock it off because they were derailing the thread in some way and if they wouldn't stop, then time out it was. Considering how much would be going on at one time, it was just easier that way. It wasn't "punishment", at least not for me. Was every mod perfect? No. One was a real headcase. Angry lady who was jealous of any mod that had a "popular" thread or if she co-moderated. She was alot of what pepole are saying here but she was fired. I would have joined JQ but couldn't take the language and constant NON STOP whining about WS. It wasn't easy but it could be fun. The worst for me was constantly having posted wanting me to time out or ban other posters. The contant bickering. I mean non-stop 24/7 bickering, much like I'm reading here. No matter what you did, you were going to be the bad guy. I usually liked all the posters no matter what side they were on, I didn't favor anyone even if I did enjoy some peoples comments and attitudes better then others. What made me llaugh ALL THE TIME was all the posters who said they were banned for no reason. I could read the banning threads and I never saw anyone banned for no reason. So if someone tells you that, know their lying. You had to be a real A hole to get banned back in my day. So all of you who just go on and on day after day, week after week, month after month and now year after year, none of your complaining has made a dent in WS. They don't care. Like I already said use that energy to create what you want, the way you want it. Being angry and bitter is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies.

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    1. And I am blown away by people who don't use paragraphs.

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    2. I HAVE been BANNED for no reason other than the worthless group who by the way, must not work or do a thing in life BUT sit on websleuths don't seem to believe it is possible another person can have a different opinion as their's, such as they say so and so Judge is a pos, I don't agree, bam, banned... and that is the truth!!

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    3. i have never had a bad encounter with TG however a lot of people are really rude there if you post a different idea than them, a lot of threads degenerate into back and forth arguments about things that really don't even relate to the case. i have had people reply to me that an idea i have had about a case had already been brought up and my opinion was not right, yet after searching and searching i find no prior mention of my theory. i think some people just say its already been discussed because it is a differing opinion from their own and sounds more cogent than their idea.

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  59. Did you hear that Websleuth is in trouble again? Only this time it's Terri Stipp aka Windchimes.

    Check this out:

    http://keenanvanginkel.blogspot.com/2014/11/joseph-camp-exposes-terri-stipp-as.html

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    1. Thanks for sharing. I hadn't heard of that one.

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  60. Websleuths used to be a wonderful place for people to try to help and figure out responsible parties for murders and where missing people could be. More recently, Trisha's success with the radio show and website has resulted in arrogance and mis-use of power. The moderators of the site used to have respect and common courtesy for their members while they enforced terms of service (TOS) for legal reasons. Now, moderators act like hall monitors, using the perceived power they have over the forums to be punitive, hostile and disrespectful of their users. Going online to WS is like asking for an adrenaline rush as users are accused of and punished for perceived violations of TOS by the mods. You will find emails in your personal email inbox from mods attacking, flaming and accusing you of doing something wrong, as if being a member makes you part of a cult where you relinquish your right to respect and common courtesy. They "yell" at users like angry camp counselors and think their power to put a user a "time out", like a child, gives them the right to be rude and disrespectful, accosting and punishing their members if they step out of line. Meanwhile, what is considered out of bounds for discussion is vague and unclear, setting up their members to enter forbidden territory, and using it as an opportunity to attack them. It's extra negativity that any healthy adult doesn't need added to their lives.

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    1. It just keeps going downhill.

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    2. It was a great site back before it was sold.

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  61. I am responding to a much earlier post on this blog.
    "Friday" is Tim's WIFE
    That is WHY no one can question what FRIDAY posts about Tim or George.
    If I remember correctly her handle on WS was "My Girl Friday"

    JUST an FYI....I was on the phone with her via a 3 way call the night George Anthony pretended suicide.

    The 3 of us were looking up flight info and gossiping while Tim kept getting calls from people in Anthonys camp... plus Tim was drunk and could not fly out but kept lying and telling everyone he was practically out the door in route to Florida. I posted these live updates on my myspace blog.

    You might note that Tricia is being sued and accused of having a gambling addiction as well as defrauding members out of thousands of dollars. One poor member named MICHAEL is now out just over $100k
    SO SUE ME aka SSM Sue Pruitt is now destroying the last shred of WS.

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  62. Every comment here is so right on! I joined in 2004, it was great then. Now it is nothing but people with no lives (not all but most) who post pages and pages of worthless comments and people with SENSE get banned! I recently emailed them and told them to delete me since I saw no option to.. You are all so spot on!!!!

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  63. So here is what I got from Websleuths "banned" though I did ask to be PERMANENTLY removed.... go figure...

    You are on a Time Out for the following reason:
    Per request

    Date the Time Out will be lifted: Never
    If this is a temporary ban, any attempt to re-register under a new name could result in additional loss of posting privileges and/or a permanent ban..

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  64. I was banned from WS for disagreeing with posters on the Dylan Redwine case. Several people were baited by long-standing members, and if any of them reacted, they were banned. This is what happened to me. They have their pets over there, and if you disagree with those pets, you get the shaft.

    Also, IMO, no immediate family member should be allowed to post on that forum, especially the mother of a missing child, the ex-wife of the "accused", or even close friends of these people. That's where the moderation comes in, because you're not allowed to state a differing opinion.

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  65. That is the strangest website ever, they will fall one day no doubt.

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  66. I've had a little too much down time from work in the last few months and have spent more time than ever on WS. I've noticed on more than one thread that I've followed that comments are deleted if they don't follow the narrative being promoted. They are not offensive comments, nor have they violated TOS. The reasons given by mods are based on the arbitrary rules they laid down on at least one of the topics...except they don't delete comments of some posters for breaking these same rules so long as they support the right side. It's Orwellian to see facts, linked to msm and some court docs, be deleted because we are supposed to pretend those facts don't exist.

    I thought it must be these mods or these cases. After googling "websleuth moderators" to see if it was just me, I can now tell it's been going on the whole time. I'm usually skimming or playing catch up so I've never seen this kind of truth distortion in real time.

    Thank you for this blog because this they can't control or make go away. I hope you keep it up so long as that site exist.

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    1. First published this on the blog 6 years ago and nothing has changed over there. Same owner and mods.

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  67. I'm sick of WS deleting my posts. They don't want people to know anything. People had to PM me to get information. The admins are too trigger happy with the delete button. What are the alternatives to WS? Can I join?

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  68. In the spring a docu-series is being made that will feature WS. It's by the producers of Cropsy. I wonder about the credibility. Big time. Between that and the ads I'm sure TG can't claim that she is losing money in this venture (unless attorney fees are included perhaps). Craziness.

    I browse there because it is an easy repository of national crime.

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